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Visio Discussions => ShapeSheet & Smart Shapes => Topic started by: sankarram90 on September 08, 2022, 07:49:26 AM

Title: Arrow Head Line thickness
Post by: sankarram90 on September 08, 2022, 07:49:26 AM
I recently (2 days back) discovered the dark arts of Shapesheets and it gave hope to my long lost dream of using visio for Bond graphs.
See, bond graphs uses 3 arrows a half arrow, a vertical line and a half arrow with vertical line. [Pic Attached]

Here are my steps:

Awesome Everything Works EXCEPT


What am I doing wrong?
Is there a way to see the shape sheet of original arrows in Visio to see how it's done?
Title: Re: Arrow Head Line thickness
Post by: Croc on September 08, 2022, 08:53:01 AM
Set arrow line thickness to 0 pt.
Title: Re: Arrow Head Line thickness
Post by: Yacine on September 08, 2022, 10:53:02 AM
@Croc,
I tried it, but it only works when set to no scale.
And the result was disappointing, all details "swallowed" by the thick line.
Do you happen to have a good working example?
Title: Re: Arrow Head Line thickness
Post by: Croc on September 08, 2022, 11:33:54 AM
QuoteI tried it, but it only works when set to no scale.
Yes, it's true.
I am attaching an example.
Title: Re: Arrow Head Line thickness
Post by: Croc on September 08, 2022, 11:46:47 AM
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Title: Re: Arrow Head Line thickness
Post by: wapperdude on September 08, 2022, 02:10:29 PM
Here are links that delve into custom line patterns:
https://visualsignals.typepad.co.uk/vislog/2008/03/creating-random.html (https://visualsignals.typepad.co.uk/vislog/2008/03/creating-random.html)
https://visualsignals.typepad.co.uk/vislog/2008/03/creating-rand-1.html (https://visualsignals.typepad.co.uk/vislog/2008/03/creating-rand-1.html)

@visguy.com:  Release the Power of Visio Custom Line Patterns
Title: Re: Arrow Head Line thickness
Post by: sankarram90 on September 08, 2022, 07:16:38 PM
Quote from: Croc on September 08, 2022, 11:46:47 AM
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THANKS!! That did work. Now the arrow line thickness is updating as line thickness is changing

How ever, in my case the arrow head is really small. In your example it seems the bounding box is quite small compared to the whole arrow head drawing. Is that doing the trick?
In my case if I put the size to Jumbo, it gets to the size of medium of normal arrows.
Title: Re: Arrow Head Line thickness
Post by: Croc on September 08, 2022, 08:30:20 PM
QuoteIn your example it seems the bounding box is quite small compared to the whole arrow head drawing. Is that doing the trick?
Yes, I did it on purpose. There may be other ways, but I liked this one.
QuoteWhen I try to change the bounding box size, it is just shrinking the whole thing.
I used such sequence:
1. make a small group, for example from a short line
2. Open it for editing, add an arrow image
3. Delete the primary shape
4. Close the group and do not update the bounding box
In this case, the group remains small, and the arrow goes beyond the group.
Title: Re: Arrow Head Line thickness
Post by: sankarram90 on September 09, 2022, 09:39:45 PM
Quote from: Croc on September 08, 2022, 08:30:20 PM

I used such sequence:
1. make a small group, for example from a short line
2. Open it for editing, add an arrow image
3. Delete the primary shape
4. Close the group and do not update the bounding box
In this case, the group remains small, and the arrow goes beyond the group.

I think that worked. I am still not sure how that happened and why it did.
Don't know why such a simple task needs such specific things to be done to get it correct. However really happy there is such a good community behind it.

Attaching the VSSX file incase someone looks for it in future and reaches here.
Title: Re: Arrow Head Line thickness
Post by: Yacine on September 10, 2022, 05:45:54 AM
There must have been free beer somewhere when they taught us bond graphs at the university. Well, not even sure about this, because there isn't even a German page on Wikipedia  (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bond_graph)about them.
Reading the English version, I remembered why I gave up on OpenModellica.
Then I consoled myself with the serenity prayer  (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serenity_Prayer)and went back to Visio.