How to get the absolute (page) position in a subshape formula?

[Visisthebest]

How can a subshape get its own absolute position on the page with a shapesheet formula?

The scenario is: the user is grouping shapes he/she shouldn't be grouping, and I want to keep VBA macros from going haywire because suddenly the PinX and PinY of shapes (that have suddenly become subshapes because of user action) are now relative to the group not the page.

If I could create a User section field with a formula that always has the absolute (relative to the page) PinX and PinY of a subshape that would solve it perfectly! Thank you for your help!

[wapperdude]

Just use this formula:  LOCTOLOC(PNT(LocPinX, LocPinY), Width, ThePage!PageWidth)

[Visisthebest]

Thank you really useful formula Wapperdude!