all (especially yacine),
thanks very much for what you have provided. in simple terms it is what i have been looking to do.
the next stage is making sure i can massage the data i currently have in an access db into the format i'll need and then be able to manipulate the shape values appropriately (start of shape, end of shape, the shape itself, orientation, etc).
i have already developed a planning tool to display work sites on a geographical visio layout that takes data from a corporate application with an SQL backend into an access db, manipulate the data and then dependng on date ranges selected, display on the visio diagram. this will be an extension of that project.
again, thanks.
bernie