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Title: Adobe Reader Fails to open PDF's published from Viso
Post by: Nathan on October 17, 2013, 11:27:26 PM
Some time ago I started a post about problems with pdf's published from VISIO.  "Publish as PDF problems VISIO 2007"  I wanted to be more specific, as this problem is not going away.  My problem is that Adobe Reader will not open my PDF's which I publish from VISIO.  I think the problem started with version 9; but I am not sure.  Adobe displays the error: "An error exists on this page.  Acrobat may not display the page correctly.  Please contact the person who created the PDF document to correct the problem"  I have no problem opening these PDFs with Foxit Reader for example; but it is a little awkward asking a customer to download this free reader to view a product data sheet or system manual.  I have found that making sure I have no rotated or flipped fill patterns will often help Adobe work; but not always.  Sort of hard to tell people to not use Adobe.  I have attached two PDFs illustrating the problem.  They have the same shapes but in the one that will not open in adobe the shapes are rotated.

Is this a know problem?
Title: Re: Adobe Reader Fails to open PDF's published from Viso
Post by: Paul Herber on October 17, 2013, 11:53:43 PM
I think there may be a problem with the latest Acrobat reader, I've looked at a good 30 PDFs on the internet today (various microprocessor chips), a good 20% showed this error. Might be time to be patient and wait for a fix to be released.
Title: Re: Adobe Reader Fails to open PDF's published from Viso
Post by: Paul Herber on October 18, 2013, 01:19:12 PM
Here's an example of a very simple PDF that generates a warning with the latest Acrobat Reader:
http://www.rapidonline.com/pdf/73-1900e.pdf (http://www.rapidonline.com/pdf/73-1900e.pdf)
I suspect it's the reader.
Title: Re: Adobe Reader Fails to open PDF's published from Viso
Post by: wapperdude on October 18, 2013, 03:13:46 PM
Sorry Paul, but, according to Adobe, I have the latest reader version, 10.1.8 as of this posting, and I can open the pdf file that file example...via Internet Explorer and via a saved file to my desktop. 

Wapperdude
Title: Re: Adobe Reader Fails to open PDF's published from Viso
Post by: Paul Herber on October 18, 2013, 03:39:49 PM
10.1.8.28 here, the document is displayed fine in IE, Opera and Mozilla, except Mozilla displays a warning that it might not be correct.
Title: Re: Adobe Reader Fails to open PDF's published from Viso
Post by: wapperdude on October 18, 2013, 04:03:18 PM
Hey!

Not sure why you get the ".28" on the rev level.  Doesn't show on mine, and Adobe says I have latest version.  Anyway, it' just Mozilla that causes the error?  What about if you save the file, and open it as a stand-alone?  That should be OK too.  Makes me think it's an Adobe / Mozilla issue.

I guess the next step, if possible, would be to have the original poster provide a Visio generated pdf that fails to see if we can at least confirm the problem.  Not that we can do anything about it.   :-\

I've not done any recent pdf saves.
Title: Re: Adobe Reader Fails to open PDF's published from Viso
Post by: Nathan on October 18, 2013, 05:09:58 PM
I think I provided a couple of attachments above.  Here is another one.  I did notice that Foxit Reader does distort the fill on the rotated drawing.  I have Adobe Reader XI Version 11.0.5 and with this particular drawing I get absolutely nothing on page 2 not even an error
Title: Re: Adobe Reader Fails to open PDF's published from Viso
Post by: wapperdude on October 18, 2013, 06:30:27 PM
My apologies.  Missed the initial two attachments.  So, I confirmed that 1st attachment didn't open, 2nd and 3rd attachments do open.  Get the page error message with 1st attachment.

You have version 11 of Adobe Reader???

Wapperdude
Title: Re: Adobe Reader Fails to open PDF's published from Viso
Post by: Nathan on October 18, 2013, 06:52:17 PM
Yes I am using the latest Adobe Reader download from the adobe website.  It is Version 11.0.5.   However, I have been having problems for some time now.  Started with Adobe 9 I think.  The third drawing does in fact have an image on page 2; but Adobe shows a blank page.  Wondering if this has to do with Adobe strictly enforcing their PDF standard
Title: Re: Adobe Reader Fails to open PDF's published from Viso
Post by: wapperdude on October 18, 2013, 07:01:27 PM
The file is as you say... no viewable image on page 2.

Curious, wonder why the update feature within Adobe reader doesn't know about version 11?  Rhetorical question.
Title: Re: Adobe Reader Fails to open PDF's published from Viso
Post by: vojo on October 20, 2013, 12:57:06 AM
for what its worth....I use pdf995 for years.   Only problem I have is that transparency is not done too well....but drawings in general are
always presented well.

Could look at save as png or jpg....put them in a word doc....pdf that bad boy
Title: Re: Adobe Reader Fails to open PDF's published from Viso
Post by: Nathan on October 23, 2013, 06:54:50 PM
I want to make sure that this problem is not specific to my setup.  The attached is a pdf from a drawing of a rectangle with fill pattern 29 using two colors and then rotated 45 degrees.   The pdf opens in Foxit Reader but the fill pattern is incorrect.  The pdf opens in Adobe with no error but the page is blank  Can someone try doing the same thing and see if they have the same problem?
Title: Re: Adobe Reader Fails to open PDF's published from Viso
Post by: wapperdude on October 23, 2013, 11:42:30 PM
Confirm that Adobe reader has blank 2nd page.

Wapperdude
Title: Re: Adobe Reader Fails to open PDF's published from Viso
Post by: Paul Herber on October 23, 2013, 11:44:13 PM
Second page is blank for me. I understand that various complex fill patterns has always been a problem for Acrobat. I don't think it's a Visio problem per se.

Title: Re: Adobe Reader Fails to open PDF's published from Viso
Post by: wapperdude on October 24, 2013, 03:27:50 PM
Question for Vojo -- have you tried opening this pdf with pdf995?  Did the 2nd page show the rotated shape or was it blank?

Just curious.

Wapperdude.
Title: Re: Adobe Reader Fails to open PDF's published from Viso
Post by: vojo on October 24, 2013, 06:15:49 PM
I think you guys misunderstood what I meant to say

I use PDF995 to take a visio file (or any file since its a print driver) and create a PDF
(the only issue I ever had with PDF995 is that transparent shapes tend to get filled opaquely....so really cant do "overlays" per se).

That said, I did the following
   - Opened in adobe the file "cant open"....got a warning but did open (looks like a small DC motor)
   - I "printed" it via PDF995 to another PDF....no warnings (still a motor).

Adobe reader = 10.1.8
PDF995 = oh I dont know....back when the earth was cooling....maybe 10 years ago I got it....free version (with adds).
Title: Re: Adobe Reader Fails to open PDF's published from Viso
Post by: wapperdude on October 24, 2013, 06:47:22 PM
No.  Understood.  Just wanted to try an experiment to see PDF995 could somehow see the 2nd page.  Adobe Reader and Adobe Acrobat show blank 2nd page.

Thanks for the extra effort.

So what you saw was not a rotated rectangle with gradient fill. 

I guess next step is to get the original Visio file and let other users try the experiment to see if the problem can be replicated.

Wapperdude.
Title: Re: Adobe Reader Fails to open PDF's published from Viso
Post by: vojo on October 25, 2013, 01:55:54 PM
both the WILL and WILL NOT OPEN files have 1 page each....neither has a second page even listed.
Title: Re: Adobe Reader Fails to open PDF's published from Viso
Post by: Nathan on October 25, 2013, 02:08:48 PM
I have attached a couple visio files. 
Title: Re: Adobe Reader Fails to open PDF's published from Viso
Post by: vojo on October 26, 2013, 04:31:24 AM
995 did not have a problem (visio 2003)
Title: Re: Adobe Reader Fails to open PDF's published from Viso
Post by: nashashmi on October 28, 2013, 05:58:11 PM
Hey, I am also beginning to notice this problem. I am using Publish as PDF from Visio 2007, and when opened up in Adobe Acrobat v8.1.3, only some of the shapes appear with no error. The new version of Adobe Reader does same thing plus error.   But the interesting I found was that only some shapes appear. 

So I started deleting shapes here and there to see if there was a problem with a shape, and I found some change
in which shapes appeared and disappeared.  So I set to isolate the problem down to which shapes are causing problems.

I found almost all shapes that had angles other than 0, 90, 180, 270 would cause the error. Even an angle like 90.0001 would cause an error.

So I tried opening another PDF document generated from a file a few years back that utilized virtually the same stencil shapes.  It opened flawlessly. But now when I generate the same pdf through visio 2007 from the same vsd file used originally, I get an error and the symptom of shapes appearing and not appearing.  :o ???

Isolated shape that the problem comes from is attached. Three shapes are shown. Any shape drawn after the third shape will not appear.
Title: Re: Adobe Reader Fails to open PDF's published from Viso
Post by: Paul Herber on October 28, 2013, 07:13:47 PM
Yes, I get the same. The generated PDF causes Adobe Reader to crash.
Title: Re: Adobe Reader Fails to open PDF's published from Viso
Post by: nashashmi on October 28, 2013, 07:17:53 PM
Okay update: I isolated the problem further. Any shape with a fill of pattern 29 and rotated will not appear, and/or will sponsor an error.
Title: Re: Adobe Reader Fails to open PDF's published from Viso
Post by: vojo on October 28, 2013, 07:43:06 PM
plot thickens....995 with visio 2003 did NOT have a problem with the "drawing1.vsd" file
Title: Re: Adobe Reader Fails to open PDF's published from Viso
Post by: wapperdude on November 01, 2013, 04:48:00 AM
I down loaded trial of Acrobat Pro.  It provides Adobe PDF Maker as an add-in for Visio.  Did a simple test of three filled rectangles.  Two with gradients.  No problems.  Fills came out fine.

Wapperdude
Title: Re: Adobe Reader Fails to open PDF's published from Viso
Post by: wapperdude on November 01, 2013, 04:55:20 AM
Now for the supplied Visio file.  Ran Adobe PDF Maker.  No issues.  Both pages converted without any problems.

BTW, this was with V2007.  I don't have the Visio pdf add-in as I tend to have issues whenever I update V2007 in the presence of Office 2010.

But it does look like it is a Visio conversion problem.

Wapperdude
Title: Re: Adobe Reader Fails to open PDF's published from Viso
Post by: wapperdude on November 01, 2013, 05:02:47 AM
and finally, the last Visio file of interest was converted effortlessly.

I saved it under the name below rather than the drawing1.vsd default name provided.

Wapperdude