Visio Guy

Ok, Microsoft marketing didn't pay me to run this poll (hmm...maybe they should have), but I am curious what you all think. Since I have an MSDN subscription, I don't think about purchase price or other stresses, I just blindly download and install.

What are you all planning with Visio 2010?

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As an observation from the side (one of the driving issues). Scenario x64 was pre-installed on my current system, srv2008R2 is x64. When I can load a Visio x64 Drawing control from a current Visual Studio product toolbox (on a x64 system) onto a WinForm, I'll consider it. The target for the solution is srv2008R2 Visio Services and remote desktop.
al

Don't be shy, people, get out there and VOTE!

I heard a rumor the 2010 Office software will only work on the new Windows 7 Operating system.  Is that true?

I'm running the 2010 Technical Preview on an XP virtual pc, so I don't think the rumor is true.

As a casual user, V2007, meets all of my needs.  Doesn't seem like it was that long ago that I finally upgraded from V2003.  I guess, when I upgrade to 64Bit O/S, then I'll upgrade Visio -- after all of you energetic folks work out the bugs!!!   ;D   :o   :P

...now where did I put that windup crank for my 386??? 

UPDATE 2/4/2012: 
Have V2010 at work...Can I change my vote to NEVER!!!  It's that blasted ribbon.   >:(  :P
A.)  It actually occuppies more screen space   ???
B.)  It is BADLY organized -- so, it's difficult to find things.   :o
C.)  There are fewer commands immediately available; this requires more steps to do something simple.  Although, thanks to Chris' book  :), I discovered the quick command section where I can put my "favorite, frequently used" commands  Gee, I feel like I'm having to convert the ribbon back to pre-ribbon days to make it useful.  What's the point???   :o   ???   :P

It is so overwhelmingly bad, that it overshadows any pluses the release may contain.

Given a installed customer base using Visio 2003 and 2007, I'm left with continued development on 2003 although it obviously has to work with 2007. So until 2007 can no longer be purchased, there is no reason to upgrade (or until a customer demands it of course, they are always right  ;D)

I guess I should have added:

  (o) When they pull the 386 from my cold, dead hands

for wapperdude :)

When my work stops being cheap? Nah, probably a couple of weeks after release hopefully - thankfully it will fall the right side of discrecenary spend

Upgraded day of release - for better or worse...

8^P

How about a specific option for "when my technical preview/beta release time-bombs"?
Why purchase tomorrow what I can put off till October 2010? I'm a professional procrastinator... if you can't tell.

-Will

Hah! Item added, Will! :)

Just upgraded to Visio 2010 (14.0.4514.1004) MSO (14.0.4536.1000) BETA. Still missing a few features - but pretty stable and very usable.

Well I'm stuck with developing on Visio 2003 as this is the version out customers are using, but also have to be sure it runs on 2007 and 2010 when its out there.

I have just downloaded it and will soon be testing with it, just like with 2007.
Most of my customers have just 'upgraded' from 2000 to 2003 so I am very happy with that...  :-[
testing with 2010 now allows me to say, yes I can support you for another 10 years...  ::)

I've been testing Visio 2010 with our automated drawing software and am finding that it is much better for viewing embedded data and using data graphics for multiple diagrams. The container view makes it much easier to categorise groups and move about (in my case servers, networks, cabling, etc) so that is a plus, especially as I typically have many hundreds of diagrams I want a consistent look and feel to.

Right-clicking on a shape and being able to quickly change font, colour, fill without extra levels of menus is better.

The custom access toolbar also helps - maybe because the ribbon gets in the way of finding the less common functions - which I seem to keep wanting to use.

Between 2007 pro and 2010 pro I'd say there are extras that probably make it worth changing. From 2003 and before - go straight to 2010

dave

you left an option out: already have it :p.

Been using it for a few months now as I can get it real cheap from the education institute where I work. In the office we still use 2007. Peersonally I find 2010 awkward to use. I suppose in time I will get a custom ribbon set up to my liking. At the moment though I find I can get a lot more done with 2007.

I will upgrade when my client base upgrades.. basically when the company decides to.. then there will be ongoing testing issues (still trying to nut out a boogie in 2007).. the problem is as always, trying to support functionality in superseded versions.. so I guess keep it simple , keep it neat  and the solution will stand the test of time.  (thats why we still have pencils and paper) ;D

Thanks Cliff. "Nut out a boogie", never heard that one, but ten bucks says it's Aussie! :)

To be honest, I can't stand the new ribbon for Visio 2010.  The fact that they removed several key features and toolbar buttons, and the 'custom' ribbon section is a joke.  To be honest, when they force to upgrade later this year, I'm putting in a ticket to get "Classic Visio Menus" installed, too...

Changed to Visio 2010 very recently, I use it on a daily basis and now I have my head around the ribbon, I can work faster than I did with 2007, but as you see from other posts did have some issues with crashing which Windows 7 has found solutions and it appears now to be stable.
The other concern which bugs me is the zoom, it seems to be fixed to 1000 as a default which I am unable to resolve, and yet some old drawings created with 2007 version will zoom to 2900. I have attempted to change the zoom and set my own, but it skips back to 1000, which I feel limits the depth of detail I can work with, if anyone has worked out a way to change and set the default I would be very interested to hear from you.
I do not think they have made a bad job with this version and the the quick access toolbar gives a more flexible user option, I wonder how much notice they ( Microsoft) take from users prior to making changes.       

"I wonder how much notice they ( Microsoft) take from users prior to making changes." The Visio product team is about a release behind what is happening in office. They (office) put the ribbon in at o2007, the Visio team did it in v2010. This gives them the significant advantage of being able to observe the headaches of new technology roll-outs and not get caught. This is reflected in how much more stable the v2010 ribbon implementation is than the original. Some changes, such as how the different editions of standard, pro, premium have different features and software loads, are reflections of how the business has changed and the cost of support. One of the things that we have to remember is that markets (such as Europe) have the very real effect of a large user with a big stick, so some of the changes may be less than voluntary.
al

"I wonder how much notice they ( Microsoft) take from users prior to making changes."

Easy to answer, none!